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Title: Howdy
Post by: Garrett on April 01, 2010, 07:54:37 PM
I hang out with enough of you guys so I thought I better join :shades: look forward to more cruises and browsing :smile:
Title: Howdy
Post by: 68PONY on April 01, 2010, 08:41:12 PM
Howdy garrett, How's life, If your free good friday come out to fox studios or the enternainment quarter as its called now, we are having a car display where the farmers market normaly is, would be good to catch up.
cheers chris.
Title: Howdy
Post by: Garrett on April 02, 2010, 07:49:09 AM
Ok sounds sweet, who is displaying? too late for other cars to display? Most things will be closed are the coffee shops etc open for the dsiplay?
Title: Howdy
Post by: blocker on April 04, 2010, 11:28:19 PM
Thought i would join up also gentlemen. Look forward to seeing everyone out & about.
Title: Howdy
Post by: 69DirtyRat on April 04, 2010, 11:34:07 PM
What have u got blocker?
Title: Howdy
Post by: Garrett on April 05, 2010, 07:06:57 AM
Blockers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVk4wn1Md-s&playnext_from=TL&videos=YwzvNfXiDGU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr3JjhPT4oE&playnext_from=TL&videos=SKvEjcbqbEw

Mine is the green one and yes VERY MUCH SLOWER LOL

http://www.youtube.com/my_videos?feature=mhw5
Title: Howdy
Post by: 68PONY on April 05, 2010, 02:40:42 PM
Quote from: 69DirtyRat link=topic=3106.msg18178#msg18178
What have u got blocker?

He has a small block ford windsor that would make your p#ssy weak big blob chev  :cry: :lol: :zip:
Oh, nice to see ya here block
Title: Howdy
Post by: heven67 on April 05, 2010, 04:19:39 PM
:bow:Not bad for a small small block!:boxing:

We love em all!:agree:
Welcome guys, Hey blocker..........Im Paull! Happy easter anyway!
Title: Howdy
Post by: blocker on April 05, 2010, 05:20:32 PM
Hey Hev & Chris, hope you fellas are well. 69DirtyRat I have a XTGT with a stroked 302 windsor, nothing spectacular. Hope to see all you dudes on a run.
Cheers,
Block
Title: Howdy
Post by: GTA390 on April 05, 2010, 07:04:16 PM
Hi Blocker, welcome to the club.
I have a powerfull 289, really kicks arse, as long as it is a small arse :rol::rol::rol:
David.
Title: Howdy
Post by: 68PONY on April 05, 2010, 07:08:36 PM
Quote from: GTA390 link=topic=3106.msg18198#msg18198
Hi Blocker, welcome to the club.
I have a powerfull 289, really kicks arse, as long as it is a small arse :rol::rol::rol:
David.

:rol::rol::rol::rol::rol::rol::rol:
Title: Howdy
Post by: 69DirtyRat on April 05, 2010, 08:17:09 PM
Geez she goes alright!  :way:
Pity none of those other show ponies that talk a lot can do that! :boxing::cry::rol::rol::rol::rol:
Title: Howdy
Post by: 68PONY on April 05, 2010, 08:31:33 PM
Quote from: 69DirtyRat link=topic=3106.msg18206#msg18206
Geez she goes alright!  :way:
Pity none of those other show ponies that talk a lot can do that! :boxing::cry::rol::rol::rol::rol:

Pity we don't know if  these big mouth big blobs can do that,  cause there to scared to race and run slower than a small block :boxing::mad::cry::rol::rol::rol::rol::rol:
Title: Howdy
Post by: sms777 on April 06, 2010, 12:15:17 PM
Quote from: 68PONY link=topic=3106.msg18208#msg18208
Quote from: 69DirtyRat link=topic=3106.msg18206#msg18206
Geez she goes alright!  :way:
Pity none of those other show ponies that talk a lot can do that! :boxing::cry::rol::rol::rol::rol:

Pity we don't know if  these big mouth big blobs can do that,  cause there to scared to race and run slower than a small block :boxing::mad::cry::rol::rol::rol::rol::rol:

Geez... some fighting words there!  :boxing:
Welcome Garrett and blocker
If you want them machines go faster you know who to call  :smile:
Title: Howdy
Post by: blocker on April 06, 2010, 04:29:03 PM
You blokes are hilarious! :fantastic: Sounds like you should organise a drag day & get it on :way:.
Title: Howdy
Post by: heven67 on April 06, 2010, 06:11:59 PM
We did and "THEY" had no less than 12 volumes of the Encyclopedia of excuses of why they couldn't come!

(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r120/heven67/mad%20pictures/bear.gif)
Title: Howdy
Post by: Garrett on April 06, 2010, 08:01:46 PM
Quote from: heven67 link=topic=3106.msg18230#msg18230
We did and "THEY" had no less than 12 volumes of the Encyclopedia of excuses of why they couldn't come!

sounds like the clevo mafia on our site :zip:

(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r120/heven67/mad%20pictures/bear.gif)
Title: Howdy
Post by: Garrett on April 06, 2010, 08:03:21 PM
Quote from: GTA390 link=topic=3106.msg18198#msg18198
Hi Blocker, welcome to the club.
I have a powerfull 289, really kicks arse, as long as it is a small arse :rol::rol::rol:
David.

:hesaid:
Title: Howdy
Post by: heven67 on April 06, 2010, 09:21:52 PM
Quote from: Garrett link=topic=3106.msg18231#msg18231
Quote from: heven67 link=topic=3106.msg18230#msg18230
We did and "THEY" had no less than 12 volumes of the Encyclopedia of excuses of why they couldn't come!

sounds like the clevo mafia on our site :zip:

(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r120/heven67/mad%20pictures/bear.gif)



But we luv em anyway!:ban:
Title: Howdy
Post by: cpu on April 06, 2010, 09:43:16 PM
Quote from: heven67 link=topic=3106.msg18241#msg18241

:ban:



Can I, can I, can I. :lol:
Title: Howdy
Post by: heven67 on April 06, 2010, 10:15:53 PM
AAAhhh.........


(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r120/heven67/mad%20pictures/klink.jpg)
Title: Howdy
Post by: Garrett on April 07, 2010, 06:53:09 PM
you guys are so much more fun than the site I moderate :shades:

Thanks Chris, Blocker racing Fri 16th, first time on slick, should make for another  "Sorry you cannot race anymore, please leave" :mad:
Title: Howdy
Post by: cpu on April 07, 2010, 07:01:30 PM
Quote from: Garrett link=topic=3106.msg18262#msg18262
you guys are so much more fun than the site I moderate :shades:

Thanks Chris, Blocker racing Fri 16th, first time on slick, should make for another  "Sorry you cannot race anymore, please leave" :mad:


But don't you have to have an ANDRA licence to run on Friday nights and therefor speed/time shouldn't be a problem, unless he is minus one chute and roll cage? :lol:


WSID
Friday, 16 April 2010


Full Throttle Friday
No Limits Racing for Sydney's Quickest Cars!

Testing for all ANDRA license holders only.


Title: Howdy
Post by: blocker on April 07, 2010, 07:36:25 PM
No cage in my nugget :cry:
Title: Howdy
Post by: 68PONY on April 07, 2010, 07:42:47 PM
Well convertible with no roll bar is limited to 12.99 ran a 12.8 with old donk, they turned a blind eye, so im in the same position now with the new donk.
Title: Howdy
Post by: blocker on April 07, 2010, 09:07:14 PM
Quote from: 68PONY link=topic=3106.msg18266#msg18266
Well convertible with no roll bar is limited to 12.99 ran a 12.8 with old donk, they turned a blind eye, so im in the same position now with the new donk.


Aren't you a little curious to see what the new donk runs mate?
Title: Howdy
Post by: 68PONY on April 07, 2010, 09:32:12 PM
Sure am , i didn't say i wasn't going to run it , if there is a private track day in the winter months i'm there , if i get a good start off the line i'll keep my foot in it , if i don't ill back off.
Title: Howdy
Post by: bonnevista on April 08, 2010, 01:41:56 PM
Quote from: 68PONY link=topic=3106.msg18266#msg18266
Well convertible with no roll bar is limited to 12.99 .


Yeah, that's why I don't run my convertible.














Yeah, right.:lol:
Title: Howdy
Post by: heven67 on April 08, 2010, 05:27:01 PM
Quote from: bonnevista link=topic=3106.msg18283#msg18283
Quote from: 68PONY link=topic=3106.msg18266#msg18266
Well convertible with no roll bar is limited to 12.99 .


Yeah, that's why I don't run my convertible.



 














Yeah, right.:lol:







Thats a time not a date!
Title: Howdy
Post by: cpu on April 08, 2010, 05:47:57 PM
Quote from: heven67 link=topic=3106.msg18289#msg18289

...........  Thats a time not a date!



:rol::rol::rol:
Title: Howdy
Post by: Garrett on April 08, 2010, 07:52:22 PM
Quote from: 68PONY link=topic=3106.msg18274#msg18274
Sure am , i didn't say i wasn't going to run it , if there is a private track day in the winter months i'm there , if i get a good start off the line i'll keep my foot in it , if i don't ill back off.


:huh:you waiting for it to snow? on the 18th of this month, pretty sure wont be too hot
Title: Howdy
Post by: 68PONY on April 08, 2010, 08:02:17 PM
Quote from: Garrett link=topic=3106.msg18291#msg18291
Quote from: 68PONY link=topic=3106.msg18274#msg18274
Sure am , i didn't say i wasn't going to run it , if there is a private track day in the winter months i'm there , if i get a good start off the line i'll keep my foot in it , if i don't ill back off.


:huh:you waiting for it to snow? on the 18th of this month, pretty sure wont be too hot

My wifes birthday.................. I'm not ready for a divorce........yet :lol:
Title: Howdy
Post by: sms777 on April 08, 2010, 09:12:17 PM
Quote from: 68PONY link=topic=3106.msg18292#msg18292
Quote from: Garrett link=topic=3106.msg18291#msg18291
Quote from: 68PONY link=topic=3106.msg18274#msg18274
Sure am , i didn't say i wasn't going to run it , if there is a private track day in the winter months i'm there , if i get a good start off the line i'll keep my foot in it , if i don't ill back off.


:huh:you waiting for it to snow? on the 18th of this month, pretty sure wont be too hot

My wifes birthday.................. I'm not ready for a divorce........yet :lol:

I have not heard that before for an excuse.......:zip:
Title: Howdy
Post by: blocker on April 09, 2010, 01:03:38 PM
Quote from: sms777 link=topic=3106.msg18295#msg18295
Quote from: 68PONY link=topic=3106.msg18292#msg18292
Quote from: Garrett link=topic=3106.msg18291#msg18291
Quote from: 68PONY link=topic=3106.msg18274#msg18274
Sure am , i didn't say i wasn't going to run it , if there is a private track day in the winter months i'm there , if i get a good start off the line i'll keep my foot in it , if i don't ill back off.


:huh:you waiting for it to snow? on the 18th of this month, pretty sure wont be too hot

My wifes birthday.................. I'm not ready for a divorce........yet :lol:

I have not heard that before for an excuse.......:zip:




:lol::lol::lol::lol:
Title: Howdy
Post by: 68PONY on April 09, 2010, 02:14:51 PM
Quote from: sms777 link=topic=3106.msg18295#msg18295
Quote from: 68PONY link=topic=3106.msg18292#msg18292
Quote from: Garrett link=topic=3106.msg18291#msg18291
Quote from: 68PONY link=topic=3106.msg18274#msg18274
Sure am , i didn't say i wasn't going to run it , if there is a private track day in the winter months i'm there , if i get a good start off the line i'll keep my foot in it , if i don't ill back off.


:huh:you waiting for it to snow? on the 18th of this month, pretty sure wont be too hot

My wifes birthday.................. I'm not ready for a divorce........yet :lol:

I have not heard that before for an excuse.......:zip:

Hmmmmm my little pony has been down the quarter mile  more times than most of you chevy guys put together,aswell as wakefield park, :smile: no excuses it is my wifes birthday that day, not sure if the wife and kids want to spend a day at the drags, I drive a ford , I have nothing to hide :lol: :zip: :shades:
If you dont believe me check out the happy birthdays for aprill click the link http://www.americanmusclecarsaustralia.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=3105
Check the video out, my back then  iron headed 351 small block with 3.25 diff ,check my best time and then at end of video there is a certain red big blob c$ev c@r%e+ with a claimed 500hp at the wheels check out his time,click on picture to view video,Oh and both cars running on M/T street radials :pat:
(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t200/68pony/th_gtdragday.jpg) (http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t200/68pony/?action=view&current=gtdragday.flv)

(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t200/68pony/my%20mustang/wsidstreetmeet090509_0729.jpg)

(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t200/68pony/my%20mustang/Cor_0058.jpg)

(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t200/68pony/090509012120-20WSID20Street20Meet20.jpg)

(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t200/68pony/Cor_0057-1.jpg)

[IMG=700x709]http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t200/68pony/burnoutgtfalcondragday-1.jpg[/IMG]

(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t200/68pony/nostalgiadrags.jpg)

(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t200/68pony/wsidv8ownersday230907_362.jpg)
Title: Howdy
Post by: sms777 on April 09, 2010, 02:51:50 PM
It was meant to be a joke Chris.... Sorry mate  :cry:

How did you against the red Mopar on one of the bottom pictures?
Title: Howdy
Post by: blocker on April 09, 2010, 03:08:19 PM
Nice vid Chris :way: . The corvette has over 500rwhp?
Title: Howdy
Post by: 68PONY on April 09, 2010, 04:38:39 PM
Quote from: sms777 link=topic=3106.msg18308#msg18308
It was meant to be a joke Chris.... Sorry mate  :cry:

How did you against the red Mopar on one of the bottom pictures?

I know it was meant to be a joke, any excuse to give it to you big blob, mopar , potato's :rol::rol:  , oh and i smaaaaaaashed that mopar :rol::rol::rol: Ill just add those times are also on a very tired diff, the auburn lsd has craped itself and is single spining, car weighs 1525kg without me in it, i won't tell you what it weighs with me it it.......................I HAVE FEELINGS YOU KNOW!:cry: :rol::rol::rol:
Title: Howdy
Post by: Garrett on April 19, 2010, 07:52:12 PM
Chris there is a little white XTGT that is up for some fun managed to run 11.239 @ 126.35 mph yesterday in the heat at WSID.

Details:   XTGT 3624lbs on the scales with driver. 363 cube 8.2 deck windsor, C4 3600 convertor & on 205/70/14 tyres Maxxis street tyres. Oh & straight pump no octane booster etc.
:boxing:
Title: Howdy
Post by: 68PONY on April 20, 2010, 05:48:20 PM
Quote from: Garrett link=topic=3106.msg18562#msg18562
Chris there is a little white XTGT that is up for some fun managed to run 11.239 @ 126.35 mph yesterday in the heat at WSID.

Details:   XTGT 3624lbs on the scales with driver. 363 cube 8.2 deck windsor, C4 3600 convertor & on 205/70/14 tyres Maxxis street tyres. Oh & straight pump no octane booster etc.
:boxing:

Mate that is a awsome time and mph ,my hat goes of to block he has a awsome combo, but i don't no what the boxing gloves are for?, tell me ,what are blocks revs at 65mph , i'm doing 2000rpm at 65mph in a auto, horses for coarses i built mine for cruising as thats what i do most , and i'm not in competition against anyone.
cheers chris.
Title: Howdy
Post by: sms777 on April 20, 2010, 06:30:20 PM
Quote from: 68PONY link=topic=3106.msg18571#msg18571
Quote from: Garrett link=topic=3106.msg18562#msg18562
Chris there is a little white XTGT that is up for some fun managed to run 11.239 @ 126.35 mph yesterday in the heat at WSID.

Details:   XTGT 3624lbs on the scales with driver. 363 cube 8.2 deck windsor, C4 3600 convertor & on 205/70/14 tyres Maxxis street tyres. Oh & straight pump no octane booster etc.
:boxing:

Mate that is a awsome time and mph ,my hat goes of to block he has a awsome combo, but i don't no what the boxing gloves are for?, tell me ,what are blocks revs at 65mph , i'm doing 2000rpm at 65mph in a auto, horses for coarses i built mine for cruising as thats what i do most , and i'm not in competition against anyone.
cheers chris.

Hi guys,
Sorry for butting into your p#ssing contest:rol:
Chris, do not forget you have a 4 speed auto in your horse which means you are in overdrive when you are doing 65 @2000.
Blockers C4 is at 1:1 in top gear. The rest is mathematics.

:boxing:
Title: Howdy
Post by: blocker on April 20, 2010, 06:50:55 PM
Quote from: sms777 link=topic=3106.msg18573#msg18573
Quote from: 68PONY link=topic=3106.msg18571#msg18571
Quote from: Garrett link=topic=3106.msg18562#msg18562
Chris there is a little white XTGT that is up for some fun managed to run 11.239 @ 126.35 mph yesterday in the heat at WSID.

Details:   XTGT 3624lbs on the scales with driver. 363 cube 8.2 deck windsor, C4 3600 convertor & on 205/70/14 tyres Maxxis street tyres. Oh & straight pump no octane booster etc.
:boxing:

Mate that is a awsome time and mph ,my hat goes of to block he has a awsome combo, but i don't no what the boxing gloves are for?, tell me ,what are blocks revs at 65mph , i'm doing 2000rpm at 65mph in a auto, horses for coarses i built mine for cruising as thats what i do most , and i'm not in competition against anyone.
cheers chris.

Hi guys,
Sorry for butting into your p#ssing contest:rol:
Chris, do not forget you have a 4 speed auto in your horse which means you are in overdrive when you are doing 65 @2000.
Blockers C4 is at 1:1 in top gear. The rest is mathematics.

:boxing:


I would also like to stay out of the p#ssing contest as though you are a grea t looking bloke Chris i don't think our relationship has progressed to the [CENSORED] stage yet..:rain::rol::rol: Oh & i am at around 3300rpm at 65 mph.
Title: Howdy
Post by: cpu on April 20, 2010, 06:54:08 PM
Tone it down a bit lads.  This is a a family site.
Title: Howdy
Post by: sms777 on April 20, 2010, 07:03:27 PM
Quote from: blocker link=topic=3106.msg18576#msg18576
Quote from: sms777 link=topic=3106.msg18573#msg18573
Quote from: 68PONY link=topic=3106.msg18571#msg18571
Quote from: Garrett link=topic=3106.msg18562#msg18562
Chris there is a little white XTGT that is up for some fun managed to run 11.239 @ 126.35 mph yesterday in the heat at WSID.

Details:   XTGT 3624lbs on the scales with driver. 363 cube 8.2 deck windsor, C4 3600 convertor & on 205/70/14 tyres Maxxis street tyres. Oh & straight pump no octane booster etc.
:boxing:

Mate that is a awsome time and mph ,my hat goes of to block he has a awsome combo, but i don't no what the boxing gloves are for?, tell me ,what are blocks revs at 65mph , i'm doing 2000rpm at 65mph in a auto, horses for coarses i built mine for cruising as thats what i do most , and i'm not in competition against anyone.
cheers chris.

Hi guys,
Sorry for butting into your [CENSORED] contest:rol:
Chris, do not forget you have a 4 speed auto in your horse which means you are in overdrive when you are doing 65 @2000.
Blockers C4 is at 1:1 in top gear. The rest is mathematics.

:boxing:


I would also like to stay out of the p#ssing contest as though you are a grea t looking bloke Chris i don't think our relationship has progressed to the [CENSORED] stage yet..:rain::rol::rol: Oh & i am at around 3300rpm at 65 mph.

Which works out about 3.9:1 diff gears. That took me about 3 seconds to figure out.
(O.K. i used my trusty Moroso calculator) :smile:
Title: Howdy
Post by: 68PONY on April 20, 2010, 07:14:49 PM
Quote from: sms777 link=topic=3106.msg18573#msg18573
Quote from: 68PONY link=topic=3106.msg18571#msg18571
Quote from: Garrett link=topic=3106.msg18562#msg18562
Chris there is a little white XTGT that is up for some fun managed to run 11.239 @ 126.35 mph yesterday in the heat at WSID.

Details:   XTGT 3624lbs on the scales with driver. 363 cube 8.2 deck windsor, C4 3600 convertor & on 205/70/14 tyres Maxxis street tyres. Oh & straight pump no octane booster etc.
:boxing:

Mate that is a awsome time and mph ,my hat goes of to block he has a awsome combo, but i don't no what the boxing gloves are for?, tell me ,what are blocks revs at 65mph , i'm doing 2000rpm at 65mph in a auto, horses for coarses i built mine for cruising as thats what i do most , and i'm not in competition against anyone.
cheers chris.

Hi guys,
Sorry for butting into your [CENSORED] contest:rol:
Chris, do not forget you have a 4 speed auto in your horse which means you are in overdrive when you are doing 65 @2000.
Blockers C4 is at 1:1 in top gear. The rest is mathematics.

:boxing:

Thats exactly right hence my coment about building my car for cruising.:smile: ps chris whats with the boxing gloves?
Title: Howdy
Post by: bonnevista on April 20, 2010, 07:21:42 PM
It makes you wonder why the Yanks didn't get into overdrive transmissions at a much earlier time.  It would've made a lot of cars in the muscle car era a lot more user friendly.
 
Title: Howdy
Post by: sms777 on April 20, 2010, 07:36:24 PM
Quote from: bonnevista link=topic=3106.msg18586#msg18586
It makes you wonder why the Yanks didn't get into overdrive transmissions at a much earlier time.  It would've made a lot of cars in the muscle car era a lot more user friendly.
 

Warning! Potential thread drift!
Bonny Chris, did not Pontiac offer a 4 speed auto option in the Bonneville line back in the early sixties?
I used to own a 64 Bonny coupe with a 421 and 4 speed auto when i was a puppy but i can not remember if 4th was overdrive or not.
Help me!  
Title: Howdy
Post by: cpu on April 20, 2010, 07:39:26 PM
Thread drift??????  This thread went south ages ago.  But since it's the author is involved.... what the heck, knock yourselves out; but keep it civil :smile:
Title: Howdy
Post by: 68PONY on April 20, 2010, 07:45:10 PM
Quote from: sms777 link=topic=3106.msg18587#msg18587
Quote from: bonnevista link=topic=3106.msg18586#msg18586
It makes you wonder why the Yanks didn't get into overdrive transmissions at a much earlier time.  It would've made a lot of cars in the muscle car era a lot more user friendly.
 

Warning! Potential thread drift!
Bonny Chris, did not Pontiac offer a 4 speed auto option in the Bonneville line back in the early sixties?
I used to own a 64 Bonny coupe with a 421 and 4 speed auto when i was a puppy but i can not remember if 4th was overdrive or not.
Help me!  

The 55 olds is a 4 speed auto but 4th is 1.1  1st is 3.82, 2nd 2.63, 3rd 1.45 but with ratios like that i'm sure the diff will be very tall.
Title: Howdy
Post by: Garrett on April 20, 2010, 07:50:55 PM
Chris,

Boxing gloves for them bigblocks with the excuse book :pat:

Block like yourself is happy with what he has.

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w185/xtgt1969/18thApril-ClubDragDay.jpg)
Title: Howdy
Post by: sms777 on April 20, 2010, 07:54:10 PM
What boxing gloves?... OOOps what was i thinking!
MOPARS RULE!  :bow: :bow::bow:
Title: Howdy
Post by: bonnevista on April 20, 2010, 08:00:45 PM
Well Chris, I'm glad you asked.  The hydramatic 4 speed auto did indeed have 4 forward speeds, however, 4th gear was 1:1.

From memory, it was in use in (US) Pontiacs and Oldsmobiles from 1958 to 1964 (They may have started earlier, but they finished in '64).

They didn't have a convential torque converter like a T/H400 or powerglide and as such, 1st gear was very low.  On the couple of cars I've driven with that trans fitted, they changed from 1st through 3rd gear pretty quickly and then took their time to get into 4th.

As far as Pontiacs were concerned (probably the same for Olds too), prior to '64, the starter motor was mounted on the trans bell housing, so you couldn't put a more modern trans in your car with the original engine.  However, in 1964, in Bonnevilles and GTOs only, the engine blocks were machined to take the block mounted starter, even though they still had the starter on the trans (Catalinas, Grand Prix, etc didn't get that until 1965).

I don't know why the Bonnevilles got the provision for the block starter, but the GTO needed it for the auto trans they use which is call the Super Turbine 300 (it's a 2 speed auto that a lot of people refer to as a powerglide - but they're not related).  It required a block mounted starter.

There was also a 3 speed auto that models like the Catalina used.  It's commonly used name is the 'Slim Jim' - why, I don't know.  It also used a bell housing starter.

It was a lucky thing that the '64 Bonneville had the block starter, at least lucky for me.  I had a '64 Bonny for many years (only a 389, but options loaded - including power vent windows).  When we got the car, it had no trans, but my Dad built a T/H400 for it, as well as making a cross member and tailshaft to suit.
Title: Howdy
Post by: 68PONY on April 20, 2010, 08:11:51 PM
Quote from: bonnevista link=topic=3106.msg18594#msg18594
Well Chris, I'm glad you asked.  The hydramatic 4 speed auto did indeed have 4 forward speeds, however, 4th gear was 1:1.

From memory, it was in use in (US) Pontiacs and Oldsmobiles from 1958 to 1964 (They may have started earlier, but they finished in '64).

They didn't have a convential torque converter like a T/H400 or powerglide and as such, 1st gear was very low.  On the couple of cars I've driven with that trans fitted, they changed from 1st through 3rd gear pretty quickly and then took their time to get into 4th.

As far as Pontiacs were concerned (probably the same for Olds too), prior to '64, the starter motor was mounted on the trans bell housing, so you couldn't put a more modern trans in your car with the original engine.  However, in 1964, in Bonnevilles and GTOs only, the engine blocks were machined to take the block mounted starter, even though they still had the starter on the trans (Catalinas, Grand Prix, etc didn't get that until 1965).

I don't know why the Bonnevilles got the provision for the block starter, but the GTO needed it for the auto trans they use which is call the Super Turbine 300 (it's a 2 speed auto that a lot of people refer to as a powerglide - but they're not related).  It required a block mounted starter.

There was also a 3 speed auto that models like the Catalina used.  It's commonly used name is the 'Slim Jim' - why, I don't know.  It also used a bell housing starter.

It was a lucky thing that the '64 Bonneville had the block starter, at least lucky for me.  I had a '64 Bonny for many years (only a 389, but options loaded - including power vent windows).  When we got the car, it had no trans, but my Dad built a T/H400 for it, as well as making a cross member and tailshaft to suit.

Thats right no torque converter in the hydramatic , thats probably why they had such low gearing for 1st and second , no torque multiplication from the converter, Ive been trying to find out what rear ratio the 55 has but a google search has come up empty, mr bonnevista maybe you know or could find out.
Title: Howdy
Post by: sms777 on April 20, 2010, 08:22:27 PM
Quote from: bonnevista link=topic=3106.msg18594#msg18594
Well Chris, I'm glad you asked.  The hydramatic 4 speed auto did indeed have 4 forward speeds, however, 4th gear was 1:1.

From memory, it was in use in (US) Pontiacs and Oldsmobiles from 1958 to 1964 (They may have started earlier, but they finished in '64).

They didn't have a convential torque converter like a T/H400 or powerglide and as such, 1st gear was very low.  On the couple of cars I've driven with that trans fitted, they changed from 1st through 3rd gear pretty quickly and then took their time to get into 4th.

As far as Pontiacs were concerned (probably the same for Olds too), prior to '64, the starter motor was mounted on the trans bell housing, so you couldn't put a more modern trans in your car with the original engine.  However, in 1964, in Bonnevilles and GTOs only, the engine blocks were machined to take the block mounted starter, even though they still had the starter on the trans (Catalinas, Grand Prix, etc didn't get that until 1965).

I don't know why the Bonnevilles got the provision for the block starter, but the GTO needed it for the auto trans they use which is call the Super Turbine 300 (it's a 2 speed auto that a lot of people refer to as a powerglide - but they're not related).  It required a block mounted starter.

There was also a 3 speed auto that models like the Catalina used.  It's commonly used name is the 'Slim Jim' - why, I don't know.  It also used a bell housing starter.

It was a lucky thing that the '64 Bonneville had the block starter, at least lucky for me.  I had a '64 Bonny for many years (only a 389, but options loaded - including power vent windows).  When we got the car, it had no trans, but my Dad built a T/H400 for it, as well as making a cross member and tailshaft to suit.
Hi Chris
I knew i could rely on you when i needed lots of useless information on Pontiac transmissions. Now my eyes are opened even wider than 20 years ago when i saw the light to put a big block chev and T400 in my 66 GTO to prove the then president of the Pontiac club that there is light at the end of the tunnell.
Since then i saw the brightest star in existence..... A PENTASTAR
MOPARS RULE!  :bow::bow::bow:
Title: Howdy
Post by: bonnevista on April 20, 2010, 08:25:24 PM
Chris (pony), I'll see what I can find.  I'm pretty sure the the rear end was the same in both Olds and Pontiac from that era, the main differences being the use of either leaf or coil springs, depending on the year.

They had a very strong diff, with a 9 and a quarter inch ring gear. Off the top of my head, as far as the '64 model was concerned, with auto trans, the standard rear end ratio was 2.56:1 (no A/C) and 2.69:1 (with A/C).  As far as optional ratios were concerned, they ranged from 2.21:1, all the way up to (I think) 6.14:1.  Why anyone would want a 6:1 diff is beyond me, unless they fitted them in tractors (yes, go ahead, Pontiacs are tractors ha ha beat you to it!).    
Title: Howdy
Post by: cpu on April 20, 2010, 08:50:51 PM
Quote from: bonnevista link=topic=3106.msg18601#msg18601


.............(yes, go ahead, Pontiacs are tractors ha ha beat you to it!).


:shades:
Title: Howdy
Post by: bonnevista on April 21, 2010, 12:16:37 PM
Chris (pony), I've found a few references to the '55 Olds rear.  While not a complete reference, they mention the ratios 3.08, 3.23 and 3.42.

The gigantor diff I mentioned earlier was shared by Pontiac and Olds between '57 and '64, so the correct rear for your car isn't the same as this.  

http://store.payloadz.com/details/788427-eBooks-Automotive-1955-OLDSMOBILE-SHOP-MANUAL-ALL-MODELS.html

This might be a handy purchase for you.
Title: Howdy
Post by: blocker on April 24, 2010, 04:48:17 PM
Quote from: Garrett link=topic=3106.msg18592#msg18592
Chris,

Boxing gloves for them bigblocks with the excuse book :pat:

Block like yourself is happy with what he has.

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w185/xtgt1969/18thApril-ClubDragDay.jpg)



My first two runs on the 205/70/14's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFJN_EeY4Ww
Title: Howdy
Post by: 69DirtyRat on April 24, 2010, 07:32:23 PM
How the hell do you do that on 205/70/14s???:bow:
Title: Howdy
Post by: blocker on April 25, 2010, 08:17:18 PM
Quote from: 69DirtyRat link=topic=3106.msg18679#msg18679
How the hell do you do that on 205/70/14s???:bow:


With a very gentle right foot mate.