American Muscle Cars Australia
Club News => AMCCA Members Chat Room => Topic started by: 68PONY on February 08, 2010, 07:44:46 PM
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Well i bought a car on evilbay last friday morning in california, after making some inquiries i was able to find someone to check the car out, but he could not get there till after the auction ended , i informed the seller that i would bid on the car and if i won before transferring money i wanted someone to make sure the car existed and that all paper work was okay ,he agreed, i won the auction and rang my contact and told him that while he is there to go over the car , well thank god he inspected the car ,here is what the add said
quote" I WELCOME ALL BIDDERS TO MY 1956 PONTIAC CHIEFTAIN 870 DELUXE CATALINA. AVAILABLE FOR THE FIRST TIME ON EBAY. 4 DOOR ALL ORIGINAL WHIT MATCHING # 316 MOTOR. AND IT IS IN PERFECT RUNNING CONDITION ITS BEEN MAID IN SOUTH GATE CALIFORNIA. AND BEEN IN CALIFORNIA ALL ITS LIFE. THIS CAR 100% RUST FREE AND THE UNDER CARRIAGE IS 100% RUST FREE. CLEAN CALIFORNIA TITTLE IT HAS RARE FACTORY A/C ITS AN AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION THE PAINT IS STILL VERY SHINY AND STILL LOOKS GREAT IT IS RED AND WHITE. WHIT MATCHING INTERIOR ALSO RED AND WHITE. THE INTERIOR IS REAMING ALL ORIGINAL AND IT LOOKS GREAT. ALL THE CROM IS STILL VERY SHINY ALWAYS GARAGE KEPT MY GRAND FATHER PURCHASE THE CAR BRAND NEW AT PONTIAC DEALER SHIP IN CALIFORNIA ITS BEEN FAMILY OWNED EVER SINCE . IT HAS A ORIGINAL AM RADIO AND WORKS GREAT. AND HAS ORIGINAL HUB CAPS . ALL ELECTRIC WORKS ON THE CAR SUCH AS HEAD LIGHTS BRAKE LIGHTS INTERIOR LIGHT BLINKERS HEATER WORKS GREAT STILL HAS ORIGINAL INDIAN HEAD ON TOP OF THE BACK SEAT. PEOPLE WHIT 0 STARS PLEASE CALL BE FOR BIDDING PLEASE (925) 864-9795 THANKS. AND HAPPY BIDDING quote" guy can't spell either here is a pic of the car, the under carrage shot was from the guy that inspected the car,
This is what 100% rust free under carrage looks like to the seller, obviously i didn't pay for the car.
The car looked great in the photos but the inspector found dodgy paint repairs and a cheap redo of the interior , basicly this w@#ker was fulla bulla.
So beware.
(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t200/68pony/rust.jpg)
(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t200/68pony/thurs_4th_feb_006.jpg)
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YES THATS A PONTIAC there is hope for the hooligan.
Better luck next time mate that's EBay.
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Chris in America that is rust free, you want to see one with rust :rol:
Just check out the sh#tters that have no rails left, thats rust, usually from a cooler climate than california.
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aww she's not too bad, bitta bog n she'll be like new :rol::rol::rol:
isnt that the Pontiac way?? :gotya:
anyway im sure you didnt pay as much as some do for rust... check it out, i don't think there's a solid anything on the car
http://www.carsguide.com.au/site/news-and-reviews/car-news/rusty_1925_bugatti_gets_408000
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Lucky there Chris..
When I was looking for mine I went to a consignment place in Sydney looked at a fastback,I could put my fist in the rail on the drivers side,,I walked away the guy said what would you offer,I said I wouldnt,He said why,cause of the rail.I said so you know about it,"They all have that",He said.:rol::boxing:
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YES THATS A PONTIAC there is hope for the hooligan.
Better luck next time mate that's EBay.
Its ok Joe he's on medication, it will wear off :lol:
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Gess if you call that Rust, you would never have even glanced at mine when i got it...
that looks pretty minor for Rust repairs in the pics... and looks like a decent car ...
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Gess if you call that Rust, you would never have even glanced at mine when i got it...
that looks pretty minor for Rust repairs in the pics... and looks like a decent car ...
Tend to agree with that
what was the price that was "paid" for the car
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I guess what 68PONY is trying to point out is that it was advertised and sold as rust free car!
It's the deception that p1sses people off.
Someone would have probably paid the same price advertised even if it was advertised as "some rust repairs required". Atleast it shows honesty and the buyer knows upfront what he's in for.
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Whilst clearly the owner misrepresented the condition, it would be virtually impossible to find a 54 year old car that's 100% rust free on an original body.
Also consider, during the '60's, '70's and probably most of the '80's, you couldn't have given that car away, so keeping a car like that in a climate controlled garage, would have been pretty unlikely.
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Yep and we didnt find out what the end price was either.....
it may have been a steal at 5K !!
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You guys are missin the point, its not about the price, or how much little work would be involved, its about misleading and false advertising:
"THIS CAR 100% RUST FREE AND THE UNDER CARRIAGE IS 100% RUST FREE"
Why would you say that unless you know it is for a fact? If he had not stated the above statement, would he have lost potential buyers?
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Maybe he was meaning to say, "100% of rust included free."
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I guess what 68PONY is trying to point out is that it was advertised and sold as rust free car!
It's the deception that p1sses people off.
Someone would have probably paid the same price advertised even if it was advertised as "some rust repairs required". Atleast it shows honesty and the buyer knows upfront what he's in for.
Baz your 100% right he told me there was no rust at all under the car , he told me the interior was 100% original , it was not , he told me the paint was original , it was not , i was bidding and paying for a car that was wrongly advertised , if he had stated those issues in his description i might have still bid on the car but i would not have bid as high , you can say what you like , i don't like being lied to , the seller was not honest.
Just to add the person who inspected the car who ships cars for a living told me the car was worth $4000 less than what my winning bid was.
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just as a matter of interest in this
what was the price that you bid up to ???? and what is the car actually worth ????
sellers usually miss represent a car ,it is after all part of the game
My own car had more rust in it than i was advised when buying BUT much of that could not be seen until it was stripped down
granted the rust on that car IS clearly visible
price still pays an important part of the equation with me
a little floor pan rust (if that is all it had) is no real big deal to fix ...in fact many cars made 50 years ago rust came as a standard feature
not missing the point ,just after all of the details
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When I bought my MPM (Mustang Pancake Maker) I also emailed the guy and specifically asked him "Was there any visable rust"? of course he said "No!" .... Bloody liar, owell at least its all easily fixed! Plus I new he was lying because I zoomed into one of the pix he gave me and sure enough I could see some bubbles, but I wanted the truck anyway!
I'm with 68Pony, the car just didnt represent what the seller had advertised! Its not about how it looks! If I sold you a car from New Orleans and it looked perfect, would you trust me? No cause its probably been under water and you would never know!
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Do not worry about rust!...
A couple of years ago i attempted to buy a car on ebay US. It looked immaculate. All shots from every angle, inside out, this thing was a gem. i was the winning bidder way under what it was really worth. come paying time, seller insisted on money transfer via bank. I said no way josey i want paypal so i have protection(sort of). He says no he wants money via bank.
O.K. i says i want title. He says no title, only bill of sale.
That's when i started to smell rat. Next thing he says he will accept paypal. I said O.K. so i paid him. Next thing to pick up car, there is no car. Several calls later he says he had to move it because too many people tried to steal it. I have sent email telling him that expect a knock on his door by the FBI due to international internet fraud because he sold me a car with no title and no guarantee of ownership.
After several threats he refunded all my money and admitted that he was only trying to sell his friends car while he was in jail because he owed him money.
I know paypal sucks but if you insist there is some protection at the end of the day and it is improving.
Cheers, Chris