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Title: 6packdave
Post by: bonnevista on January 01, 2010, 09:12:56 PM


http://www.highperformancepontiac.com/events/hppp_0712_2007_pontiac_heaven_drags_car_show/photo_11.html


http://www.pontiacheaven.org/pontiac%20history.htm
Title: 6packdave
Post by: Bumblebee on January 01, 2010, 09:37:48 PM
If you come up for oxygen at some point, you'll find the 69 and 70 BOSS 429 is also a Hemi (but not the 71 onwards as they are de-stroked 460s).
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Title: 6packdave
Post by: joe74ta on January 01, 2010, 11:04:53 PM
Bravo Bee finely something to like about mus@angs:rol:
Title: 6packdave
Post by: sms777 on January 04, 2010, 01:00:32 PM
Too bad the Pontiac Hemis never even came close to put into production. Would have been one hell of a combo in the GTO range
The Ford 429 Boss was a good effort but the Mustangs needed major body and suspension mods to accomodate them. By the time it was sorted the Mopar Hemis were already banned from Nascar simply because they were way too fast.
By the end of 1971 all production Hemis were history. :cry:

:bow:    
Title: 6packdave
Post by: bonnevista on January 05, 2010, 10:17:43 PM
Quote from: Bumblebee link=topic=2750.msg15438#msg15438
If you come up for oxygen at some point, you'll find the 69 and 70 BOSS 429 is also a Hemi (but not the 71 onwards as they are de-stroked 460s).
.


:rol::rol::rol:You thought I'd actually include something from Ford in one of my posts:rol::rol::rol:
Title: 6packdave
Post by: GTA390 on January 05, 2010, 10:28:21 PM
Technicaly the  old Victa lawn mower was a Hemi.
And i might be wrong, but i think it was Jag who had the perfect Hemispherical shaped head.

Title: 6packdave
Post by: cpu on January 05, 2010, 10:33:13 PM
You mean I have had a hemi in the shed all this time and didn't know about it.  Damm

Gees SUTPO is going to be ticked off when he finds out that his new beast is powered my a lawn mower.  And his new beast is green too..........  I feel a photoshop coming on :smile:
Title: 6packdave
Post by: bonnevista on January 05, 2010, 10:35:46 PM
So I suppose he has to fill up a BP station.  The only place you can get BP Zoom.
Title: 6packdave
Post by: GTA390 on January 05, 2010, 10:38:22 PM
Quote from: bonnevista link=topic=2750.msg15666#msg15666
So I suppose he has to fill up a BP station.  The only place you can get BP Zoom.


:rol::rol::rol:
Title: 6packdave
Post by: GTA390 on January 05, 2010, 10:39:18 PM
Just about all 2 strokes are hemi's but we wont tell him that
Title: 6packdave
Post by: cpu on January 05, 2010, 10:41:49 PM
Quote from: GTA390 link=topic=2750.msg15669#msg15669
Just about all 2 strokes are hemi's but we wont tell him that


Definitely a photoshop now. :rub:
Title: 6packdave
Post by: Bumblebee on January 05, 2010, 11:25:47 PM
Quote from: bonnevista link=topic=2750.msg15655#msg15655
Quote from: Bumblebee link=topic=2750.msg15438#msg15438
If you come up for oxygen at some point, you'll find the 69 and 70 BOSS 429 is also a Hemi (but not the 71 onwards as they are de-stroked 460s).
.


:rol::rol::rol:You thought I'd actually include something from Ford in one of my posts:rol::rol::rol:


Sincere apologies, I thought as forum superhero you'd be balanced, you know, a chip on each shoulder not just one! :smile:
Title: 6packdave
Post by: cpu on January 09, 2010, 11:50:09 AM
Quote from: GTA390 link=topic=2750.msg15661#msg15661
Technicaly the  old Victa lawn mower was a Hemi.
And i might be wrong, but i think it was Jag who had the perfect Hemispherical shaped head.




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Title: 6packdave
Post by: SUTPO on January 10, 2010, 02:49:13 PM
Thanks CPU i have a long memory :boxing: :boxing:
Title: 6packdave
Post by: cpu on January 10, 2010, 05:33:14 PM
Quote from: SUTPO link=topic=2750.msg15826#msg15826
Thanks CPU i have a long memory :boxing: :boxing:


Hehehehe! :shades:

You might want to check out the picture in the thread for the lunch run to Gerroa fisherman's club http://www.americanmusclecarsaustralia.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=2741&page=4  (http://www.splashedpaint.com/AMCC/Gifs/bolt.gif)

Title: 6packdave
Post by: Bumblebee on January 15, 2010, 09:00:46 AM
Quote from: 6pakdave link=topic=2750.msg15974#msg15974
Quote from: Bumblebee link=topic=2750.msg15438#msg15438
If you come up for oxygen at some point, you'll find the 69 and 70 BOSS 429 is also a Hemi (but not the 71 onwards as they are de-stroked 460s).
.


Not!!... there is only ever one Hemi and that is a Chrysler product. Sorry  FoMoCo n GM guys but its licenced.Please scribe this to your foreheads,HEMI=MOPAR! lol " check out my 429 Hemi", err...I dont think so.Engineering ripoffs dont really count do they?
So please dont insult us Mopar guys!
 No 429 is a "Hemi",[ careful,Mother Mopar may sue you under copyright]  Its just a wannabe Hemi needing to sell units so calling itself a semihemi via ripoff marketing!lol.
 Same reason  Frawd used a succesful 60s-70s Mopar Superstock racer's name to help sell its cars, Ronnie 'The Boss" Sox.. What lame Frawd marketing. [ I just guess Ford couldnt come up with a FoMoCo winning SuperStock drivers name to use in the late 60s lol]

later Dave

ps "By the end of 1971 all production Hemis were history"

 Really, I thought they were back in production?

(http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af228/6pakdave/SoxMartinCudaPS.jpg)


Oops sorry Dave,  I must have confused reality (i.e. every other manufacturers Hemi design), with marketing and copyright, i.e. Mopar!:gotya::gotya:
Title: 6packdave
Post by: bonnevista on January 15, 2010, 10:11:22 AM

http://www.teufert.net/pictures/hemihead.jpg

If the term Hemi is licensed, how dow you explain this magazine advertisment.
Admittedly, it's very old, but at the time, if Chrysler held the rights to the term 'Hemi', you couldn't advertise Hemi heads for Pontiac engines.  
Title: 6packdave
Post by: bonnevista on January 15, 2010, 10:28:20 AM
http://www.krepower.com/KRE_billet_aluminum_heads.htm

Here's a modern advertisment that mentions that mentions Pontiac Hemi all over the place.

Yes, you can buy Pontiac Hemi heads right now - they won't be cheap, but you can buy them.
Title: 6packdave
Post by: bonnevista on January 15, 2010, 10:44:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28lRTAG6v8I&feature=related

Cool machine, every home should have one.
Title: 6packdave
Post by: sms777 on January 15, 2010, 01:17:07 PM
They are back in production as an aftermarket equipment by Mopar Performance not as a fitment to current production vehicles.  :pat:

It would be cool to see one in the Prowlers engine bay tough....

PS. I admire your Mopar enthusiasm  :bow:
(" You can be my wingman anytime")  :zip:
Title: 6packdave
Post by: Steve on January 15, 2010, 06:49:02 PM
Quote from: 6pakdave link=topic=2750.msg15995#msg15995
The word HEMI is copywright. Same as GM & FoMoCo have name copywrights on products. Hemispherical is the mech. design description.Manufactures can have a Hemi [ hemispherical] by design, they just cant use the name!!
 HEMI is trademarked by FIAT Corp. If any other manufacturer use it on a product without FIAT Corp permission they will be most probably be sued. "Permission" is the key here, they hold the trademark so permission must be given from the owners-FIAT Corp.

 Look at any FIAT  Corp advertising and the words, Jeep,Challenger,Dodge,HEMI etc etc are trademarked. Dont confuse trademarked with design. The 429 may be of a somewhat hemispherical design, but it is not technically known as a HEMI and will never be known as one.Now if FoMoCo trademarked the  flathead as a HEMI back in the day, it may well be different! lol

 WWW Example...
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 sms777, I think you may be forgetting the 6.1 and 5.7 Hemis and the Super Stock 392 concept car that made a limited build run in 0809. Fitted to a limited run 'production' vehicle. Although limited and built 'off the line', it was a limited 'factory' build just the same.Just like a GM dealer COPO or Shelby or Royal Bobcat build from the past
 
later Dave




Fixed
:fingers:
Title: 6packdave
Post by: bonnevista on January 15, 2010, 06:57:54 PM
http://www.krepower.com/KRE_billet_aluminum_heads.htm

Well, you better get Chrysler onto these guys, because it doesn't say 'used with permission' anywhere.
Title: 6packdave
Post by: GTA390 on January 15, 2010, 07:36:08 PM
Doesn't a patent only last for so long, then unless you renew it becomes usable.
Title: 6packdave
Post by: sms777 on January 15, 2010, 08:30:56 PM

I am aware of the 5.7 and 6.1 hemis and they quiet right to use the term Hemi since they own the copyright..... But....
Have you seen a pair of heads off a 5.7-6.1 hemi?

They are not what they seem .... are they?