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Title: NSW Safety (revenue) Camera's....
Post by: cpu on December 23, 2009, 11:17:25 AM
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(http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/images/crest137x85.gif)

A new [strike]safety[/strike] (Revenue Raising) initiative from the NSW Govt.

Copied from the NSW RTA site (with some of my own comments thrown in)  


New safety cameras are being introduced to make intersections [strike]safer[/strike] (more profitable) by enforcing both speeding and red-light offences.

Safety cameras use digital technology that is capable of detecting both red-light and speeding offences and will be replacing the current outdated wet-film red-light cameras that began operating in 1988. Safety cameras will be installed at 200 locations over four years.

The purpose of safety cameras is to [strike]reduce the number of crashes at traffic lights[/strike] (increase the coffers of the state govt).

Crashes that result from drivers running red-lights can be particularly severe because they often involve the front of a vehicle impacting with the side doors of another vehicle.  Passengers and drivers are not as well protected from side impacts as frontal impacts.

Evaluations of camera enforcement of red-light offences conducted in Australia and overseas have shown this type of enforcement [strike]is clearly effective in reducing casualty crashes at intersections[/strike] (is clearly effective in hitting the already over taxed citizen even harder).  When the evaluations were considered together it is estimated that camera enforcement of red-light offences [strike]reduces the number of casualty crashes at intersections by around 30 per cent.[/strike] (increases the revenue to the Govt by 30%)

Speeding increases the risk of a crash and the severity of the crash outcome, the risk of causing death or injury in an urban 60km/h speed zone increases rapidly even with relatively small increases in speed. Speeding through an intersection is an extremely risky behaviour and puts other road users at risk.

The use of cameras to enforce speeding has proven [strike]road safety benefits.[/strike] (money rasing benifits for the state govt)   An independent evaluation of the NSW fixed speed camera program found that at sites where speed cameras have been installed there has been [strike]a 70 per cent reduction in speeding resulting in a 90 per cent decline in fatalities and a 23 per cent reduction in injuries.[/strike] (a 100% increase in money earned for the state govt)

Safety cameras will be installed at sites which meet specific criteria. These criteria are based on [strike]the number of crashes and cost to the community of crashes at a location.[/strike] (the maxium number of people the state govt can rip off at a location) This ensures safety cameras are installed at intersections that [strike]need them most.[/strike] (have the most chance of getting money out of someone) The addition of speed enforcement will provide an additional [strike]road safety benefit[/strike] (source of revenue) at the camera location.

There will be no new offences or penalties for speeding, running a red-light or speeding through a red-light. Drivers who commit a red-light or red arrow offence will receive the current penalties for these offences. Drivers who commit a speeding offence will receive the relevant speeding penalty.


All intersections with [strike]safety[/strike] (Money) cameras installed will be signposted with the new safety camera sign.

(http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/roadsafety/images/safety_camera.jpg) (http://xtremecarzone.com.au/STORAGE/PICTURES/NewsRoom/2009/safety_camera_copy.jpg)



Penalties and the law
The laws relating to offences at traffic lights are described in Part 6, Traffic lights, traffic arrows and twin red lights of Road Rules 2008.

Speeding and traffic light offences attract both fines and demerit points. High level speeding can also result in licence suspension. Click HERE (http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/rulesregulations/penalties/demeritpoints/index.html) for further details of penalties for red-light and speeding offences.

For a printable list of initial 50 Safety camera locations CLICK HERE (http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/roadsafety/downloads/safety_camera_locations.pdf)



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Title: NSW Safety (revenue) Camera's....
Post by: 65pony on December 23, 2009, 11:58:40 AM
I wonder if these new digital camera's are sensitive to EMPs??

I know the old ones are sensitive to bullets due to a couple being replaced in Lakemba :rol: :rol: :rol:
Title: NSW Safety (revenue) Camera's....
Post by: bonnevista on December 23, 2009, 03:03:33 PM
CPU, I've had a brainstorm - credit to you though.  
Get a bunch of decent sized stickers showing '$'.
Stick them on all the 'Speed Camera Ahead' signs.

It sounded better when I first thought of it.

Viva la revolution!!  
Title: NSW Safety (revenue) Camera's....
Post by: GTA390 on December 23, 2009, 04:40:09 PM
They have had these for a few years in Canberra.
Great idea, you put your foot down just a bit so you dont get caught on the orange and it gets you for speeding.

Speaking if which i got done the other day:cry:
Title: NSW Safety (revenue) Camera's....
Post by: Muzzy 66 on January 03, 2010, 08:28:05 PM
This should also be deleted...

Political based and implying that the cameras are just revenue raisers.:gotya::rain::logic:

Title: NSW Safety (revenue) Camera's....
Post by: Steve on January 03, 2010, 08:30:22 PM
Quote from: Muzzy 66 link=topic=2724.msg15509#msg15509
This should also be deleted...

Political based and implying that the cameras are just revenue raisers.:gotya::rain::logic:



very true

some consistency would be good on what can and cant be posted !
Title: NSW Safety (revenue) Camera's....
Post by: ozpont on January 03, 2010, 09:07:55 PM
(Please do not delete this post - even though it contains no outright Political Spin from our government and will not effect / hurt normal good drivers - it mentions no names &  it does not mention the expected 300% increase in revenue PER LOCATION which  has been stated widely on Talk back radio or the fact they can find money to give to 3rd world countries but not for simple concrete road dividers on deadly places like The Appin Road & the Coffs Harbor/ Kempsey goat track where  GOOD and DECENT  family people have been wiped out year after year after year... but they are happy to announce they  can find millions and millions of dollars for their Speed/light Camera Revolution ......  But this is about ROAD SAFETY... & I do understand the need for censorship and vocal minimization expecially on sensitive matters.... can offend people but as a worker ... a poor person in a Labor heartland I request on my knees to be allowed to speak please..:call:.)

.... and to help us.. they have now fitted millions of dollars worth of Camera's to see it they can spot a uninformed motorist and help him/her's education etc..  All good stuff...[/b]... and also while we are at it... for safety sake...... don't go through the intersections at 60kms either.. slow  down to 50kms..... apparently they have a tolerance of 3 KPH. Unfortunately they seemed to have missed the point here in their press release about the were the money goes.... but we'll not talk about that either...


 
   
Uncensored:  Uncut..we bring you.. the Locations published by  NSW Governments announcement ... "The Introduction in NSW of "Safety cameras" ..:fingers::thanks::fingers::thanks::bow::bow:

   

(http://camaro-firebird.org/forum/files/speedcameralocations_178.jpg)
Title: NSW Safety (revenue) Camera's....
Post by: cpu on January 03, 2010, 09:21:39 PM
Oh ha ha.  

Thread not deleted just merged with the original one posted. :smile:
Title: NSW Safety (revenue) Camera's....
Post by: GTA390 on January 03, 2010, 09:23:41 PM
Yeh thanks CPU i was writing out a 4 page essay and when i went to post it said cancelled.:ripped:
David
Title: NSW Safety (revenue) Camera's....
Post by: cpu on January 03, 2010, 09:25:53 PM
Quote from: GTA390 link=topic=2724.msg15532#msg15532
Yeh thanks CPU i was writing out a 4 page essay and when i went to post it said cancelled.:ripped:
David


Sorry about that.  You gotta be quick. :lol:
Title: NSW Safety (revenue) Camera's....
Post by: ozpont on January 03, 2010, 09:28:51 PM
"Oh ha ha."
... sorry.. that seems offensive..... :mad: that's seem personal to me bro.. I'm offended emotionally.....   can't sleep, sex life ruined.. going to have  miserable children .. probably drink a lot.. turn to drugs, rob houses.. no future.....   Need a Sorry day...  :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
Title: NSW Safety (revenue) Camera's....
Post by: cpu on January 04, 2010, 12:06:35 AM
Quote from: ozpont link=topic=2724.msg15535#msg15535
..........I'm offended emotionally.....   can't sleep, sex life ruined.. going to have  miserable children .. probably drink a lot.. turn to drugs, rob houses.. no future.....   Need a Sorry day...  


Then my work here is done. :rub: :rol:
Title: NSW Safety (revenue) Camera's....
Post by: 68PONY on January 04, 2010, 02:45:46 PM
Quote from: ozpont link=topic=2724.msg15529#msg15529
(Please do not delete this post - even though it contains no outright Political Spin from our government and will not effect / hurt normal good drivers - it mentions no names &  it does not mention the expected 300% increase in revenue PER LOCATION which  has been stated widely on Talk back radio or the fact they can find money to give to 3rd world countries but not for simple concrete road dividers on deadly places like The Appin Road & the Coffs Harbor/ Kempsey goat track where  GOOD and DECENT  family people have been wiped out year after year after year... but they are happy to announce they  can find millions and millions of dollars for their Speed/light Camera Revolution ......  But this is about ROAD SAFETY... & I do understand the need for censorship and vocal minimization expecially on sensitive matters.... can offend people but as a worker ... a poor person in a Labor heartland I request on my knees to be allowed to speak please..:call:.)

.... and to help us.. they have now fitted millions of dollars worth of Camera's to see it they can spot a uninformed motorist and help him/her's education etc..  All good stuff...[/b]... and also while we are at it... for safety sake...... don't go through the intersections at 60kms either.. slow  down to 50kms..... apparently they have a tolerance of 3 KPH. Unfortunately they seemed to have missed the point here in their press release about the were the money goes.... but we'll not talk about that either...


 
   
Uncensored:  Uncut..we bring you.. the Locations published by  NSW Governments announcement ... "The Introduction in NSW of "Safety cameras" ..:fingers::thanks::fingers::thanks::bow::bow:

   

(http://camaro-firebird.org/forum/files/speedcameralocations_178.jpg)

Thanks for the list , i drive along one of those intersections at 2.30am a few times a week , ill be extra carefull now.
cheers.
Title: NSW Safety (revenue) Camera's....
Post by: stanglover on January 04, 2010, 03:39:02 PM
Quote from: 68PONY link=topic=2724.msg15575#msg15575

Thanks for the list , i drive along one of those intersections at 2.30am a few times a week , ill be extra carefull now.
cheers.


I find your "signature" very offensive, and was it not for the "ford" rootin "holden", would have reported you to cpu.....:gotya:
Title: NSW Safety (revenue) Camera's....
Post by: 68PONY on January 04, 2010, 07:51:18 PM
Quote from: stanglover link=topic=2724.msg15579#msg15579

I find your "signature" very offensive, and was it not for the "ford" rootin "holden", would have reported you to cpu.....:gotya:

 Baz SHHHHHHHHHH! Don't spoil it for me , no one's noticed :lol:
Title: NSW Safety (revenue) Camera's....
Post by: GT SALLY on January 04, 2010, 09:13:03 PM
Quote from: 68PONY link=topic=2724.msg15585#msg15585
Quote from: stanglover link=topic=2724.msg15579#msg15579
Quote from: 68PONY link=topic=2724.msg15575#msg15575
Quote from: ozpont link=topic=2724.msg15529#msg15529
(Please do not delete this post - even though it contains no outright Political Spin from our government and will not effect / hurt normal good drivers - it mentions no names &  it does not mention ........................................................
 Baz SHHHHHHHHHH! Don't spoil it for me , no one's noticed :lol:


My girl did, over 8 months ago, she loved it, thanks for the details! No not the ford .......holden!!!!!!
Title: NSW Safety (revenue) Camera's....
Post by: cpu on January 05, 2010, 12:44:58 AM
Quote from: 68PONY link=topic=2724.msg15585#msg15585

 Baz SHHHHHHHHHH! Don't spoil it for me , no one's noticed :lol:


Yeah........ right! :rol: